Sometimes a good old point is all you need. After a big weekend of AFLW, AFLM prelims, and the Brownlow Medal, Emma, Lucy and Tess had lots to talk about. Plus: Rana catches up with North Melbourne President, Dr Sonja Hood.

We mentioned Daisy Pearce speaking on SEN, it's well worth listening to the whole piece here.

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