You know the adage: you should never meet your heroes. Here’s the thing: Derek and Jason have. And it’s worth trying.

Each of the boys came up with a list of cars that met their expectations — and a list of cars that didn’t live up to the hype. Here’s the thing: the lists were about the same length. So chances are somewhere around 50/50 that your hero will live up to its reputation. (If you’re a grouchy carmudgeon.)

In this episode we talk about the BMW E30 M3 and 325i, the BMW E9 3.0 CSL, 1973 Porsche Carrera RS, the 911 SC, 911 Carrera 3.2, the 993-chassis 911, the E36 M3, Ferrari 330 GTC and 330 GTS, Ferrari 275 GTB, 250 Lusso, 330 GTC, 250 California, 308 GTB / 308 GTS, Ferrari 360, F430, F355, 328, 348, Ferrari 308 GT4 Dino, Mondial, Porsche 959, Ferrari F40, Porsche Carrera GT, Porsche 930 Turbo, Porsche 911 Reimagined by Singer, 1939 BMW 328, Jaguar XK120, Jaguar SS100, BMW 850i E31, Nissan Fairlady Z432, Datsun 240Z, Toyota 2000GT, Mazda Cosmo, Honda S600 and S800, Nissan Skyline GT-R Hakosuka, Datsun 2000 Roadster, Lamborghini Miura, first-gen Acura NSX, 2006 Aston V8 Vantage 4.3, Alfa 105 cars including the GTV 1600, GTV 1750, GTV 2000, Giulia GT, Ford Mustang Shelby GT500, Corvette C2 Stingray, AC Cobra, Mercedes 300SL Gullwing, Porsche 356, BMW Z8, Lotus Elise, Bentley R-Type Continental, and of course the hot-hatches: Volkswagen GTI, Peugeot 205 GTI.

The Carmudgeon Show is a comedic, information-filled conversation with Jason Cammisa and Derek Tam-Scott, two car enthusiasts who are curmudgeonly beyond their years. Proving you don’t have to be old to be grumpy, they spend each episode talking about what’s wrong with various parts of the automotive universe. Despite their best efforts to keep it negative, they usually wind up laughing, happy, and extolling their love for cars. Which just makes them angrier and more bitter.

Jason Cammisa is an automotive journalist, social-media figure, and TV host with over 250 million views on YouTube alone. Jason’s deeply technical understanding, made possible by a lifelong obsession with cars, allows him to fully digest what’s going on within an automobile — and then put it into simple terms for others to understand. Also, a Master’s Degree in Law trained him to be impossible to argue with.

Derek Tam-Scott still tries. He’s a young automotive expert with old-man taste in cars, and a Master’s Degree in Civil Engineering — which means he knows how to be civil to Jason. Or at least he tries. With a decade and a half’s experience buying, selling, driving and brokering classic and exotic cars, he’s experienced the world’s most iconic cars. And hated most of them.

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