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Sam Clauder, a co-author of California’s three strik...
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Oct 23 2019 1h
Chapter 1 1 min
Eddy starts the showChapter 2 38 sec
Damon introduces guest Sam ClauderChapter 3 29 sec
Sam introduces himself and his relationship to the cannabis industryChapter 4 1 min
Sam talks about how he got involved in cannabis political processes in CaliforniaChapter 5 1 min
Growing up in a Pentecostal and law enforcement family, he became addicted to Thorazine at an early age, because they were prescribed to him from his doctor as a reaction to his life experiences which were making his family uncomfortable. Cannabis helped him recover from Thorazine. Dennis Peron pointed out to Sam that’s a perfect example of medical use and the power of cannabisChapter 6 49 sec
Sam talks about working on developing the California Coastal Initiative as a young man learning the legal political process of getting initiatives to ballot in CaliforniaChapter 7 2 mins
Sam dives into what the California Coastal Initiative aimed to do to protect California’s coastlineChapter 8 44 sec
Sam points out that the initiative process in California started in the early 1900sChapter 9 44 sec
Eddy reminisces about first meeting Sam Clauder. Jack Herer had invited Sam to a party at Eddy’s for 4th of July. Eddy was angry with Jack for inviting him, because Sam co-authored the California’s three strikes law. Eddy explains Sam’s initial intention for writing the law, and Eddy understood his position. However, the three strikes law was taken out of context and used to punish many people who didn’t deserve to go away for lifeChapter 10 1 min
Eddy says that Sam hates the three strikes law more than Eddy does, and Sam has spent the years after getting it passed, to get it repealed or amended to be more fair in approachChapter 11 1 min
Eddy talks about how one of the first men to be put away for life under CA three strikes law was guilty of stealing something minimal like a pack of gum, or a slice of pizza. Which Eddy viewed as a gross misrepresentation and use of the lawChapter 12 49 sec
Eddy talks about Dennis Peron’s authorship of prop 215, and how he made it abundantly clear that medical patients should be exempt from prosecution for cannabis use at the time because it is medicine. The state treated cannabis different, despite the wording of the law. The state still staged raids, seizure of crops, and propertyChapter 13 24 sec
Eddy says he was glad to have met Sam Clauder and to know him, and to have come to an understanding about why he co-authored the three strikes lawChapter 14 1 min
Sam explains his feelings about the three strikes law and when the first person was put away for life for an unintended use of the law. Sam was angry that it took the discretion away from judges, and put it into the hands of prosecutors and law enforcement. He says the three strikes law was completely abused. Every region handled the law completely differently from each otherChapter 15 1 min
Eddy asks Sam if counties have the right to change the meaning of prop 215 on a county level, does that mean that counties can interpret the law of anything else, like murder being illegal to legal? Why are California counties abusing the interpretation of the law?Chapter 16 23 sec
Damon points out that laws and their implementation are based upon interpretation and the power of persuasion to whoever is hearing the case, whether it be judge or juryChapter 17 39 sec
Eddy asks again how a city or county can take the rights implied by law away? How are they getting away with it? Damon says it’s because we as a citizenry don’t stand up and fight for our rightsChapter 18 59 sec
Sam points out that we shouldn’t be legislating based on certain sects of morality. We should be able to pursue anything that doesn’t harm others in any wayChapter 19 39 sec
Eddy says there is one law in the United States, our Constitution. Why and how are we putting people into prison for cannabis? Damon says because we let themChapter 20 54 sec
Eddy asks the audience what happens when their children want to pursue their dreams but are hindered by people interpreting the law to their sole benefit to prevent them from pursuing said dreams, because the action is offensive. Then you would understand how the cannabis community feels. He reminds the audience we should all mind our own business if we aren’t involved in the actionChapter 21 1 min
Sam says he didn’t write the three strikes law in its entirety, but he did believe in it. It took about two years to come to the conclusion that it was a hindrance to society because it was being misinterpreted to benefit the prison system. That is when he took action to change the law to something more specific, which became prop 66 of 2004Chapter 22 1 min
Sam says that in 2018, Congress repealed mandatory minimum sentences which was based on California& prop 66. That process created a lot of political enemies for Sam in the arena of law enforcement. Sam says you can go online and read all about the slanderous things his opposition unfolded against himChapter 23 14 sec
Eddy says he understands what it’s like to be a “marked man” because he’s experienced it tooChapter 24 59 sec
Sam says if you’re really politically effective for social causes, your effectiveness is measured by the political opposition you’ve garneredChapter 25 34 sec
Sam talks about the federal government legalizing hemp. 47 of the 50 states have legalized industrial hemp. He says CBD is changing the face of hemp across the worldChapter 26 1 min
Eddy says he’s not a scientist, and he doesn’t want to be. He says can grow the finest cannabis in the world, based on experience. As he gets deeper into the hemp industry, he keeps learning how miraculous the plants really are. As each cannabinoid is isolated and studied, we learn a whole new world of treatment options for varying problems within the human and animal bodyChapter 27 32 sec
Eddy is happy to see major universities and other large groups do intensive studies explaining the true benefits of cannabisChapter 28 26 sec
Sam talks about Israel giving their soldiers a gram of cannabis a day to help alleviate PTSD in their soldiersChapter 29 1 min
Eddy talks about the group “22 A Day” which advocates on behalf of veterans and the prevention of suicide. The idea is that 22 veterans a day are committing suicide due to unchecked PTSD. Eddy says his friends and service members don’t have to die, they need to be healedChapter 30 34 sec
Eddy says the only reason why he isn’t a part of the statistical suicides is because of his use of cannabisChapter 31 2 mins
Damon enters his soap-box about how cannabis is great medicine, but more importantly it is a vitamin. Our bodies have an endocannabinoid system for a reason. CBD and THC have been usurped by the corporate/military industrial complex to control our minds, bodies, and soulsChapter 32 29 sec
Damon asks Sam his thoughts about what cannabis means to himChapter 33 39 sec
Sam says there’s two different forms of cannabis & the medical use, and industrial use. He says Industrial use can save the world, and the environment. Medicinal use can save mankind. He goes on to explain the industrial use was banned because of the competition it created for the paper and plastic industriesChapter 34 39 sec
Sam and Eddy discuss the burning Amazon forest and how depressing it is. Eddy says the Amazon produces 20% of the oxygen humanity breathes. Try breathing 20% less oxygen, and see how you feelChapter 35 54 sec
Eddy, Damon, and Sam talk about Russia using hemp to try and reclaim the environment near Chernobyl. Hemp will never completely reclaim the nuclear waste generated by the melt-down, but it is improving life thereChapter 36 49 sec
Damon talks about how people regenerate superfund sites using hempChapter 37 14 sec
Eddy says to plant cannabis and hemp everywhere to save the earthChapter 38 1 min
Sam thinks a greater contribution to this movement would be for our young people of the nation to wake up and realize the government has ruined their lives. He hopes the new generations of bright young people will know to think for themselves and develop their own research and facts instead of continuing to depend on their government. The government will never admit they’re wrong about cannabis and hemp. He says not to believe your government about drugs. No one should be in prison for using drugsChapter 39 3 mins
Eddy suggest to not believe your government about a God-damned thing. They lie to you, screw you over, put you in prison, kill you & and if you don’t think they kill people, look at the CIA. As a very impressionable young man, he bought into the American Dream, and all that was shattered by the Vietnam War. Within 15 minutes of landing in Vietnam, he knew who had been lying to him about everything. After spending a year in Vietnam, he understands how people can feel that the only way to make change is to become violent. He doesn’t agree with it, but he understands why people get pushed to those extremesChapter 40 34 sec
Eddy says we need to pay better attention to Washington D.C. We should change the people we send there, and not people who want to screw us over for profitChapter 41 14 sec
Sam talks about today’s 18 year olds not knowing peace. We have been at war for 18 years, and our nation’s youth don’t know what it’s like to be a nation at peaceChapter 42 1 min
Eddy talks about the outrage generated from the Vietnam War would change the way we handle international conflictChapter 43 16 sec
Eddy reminds the audience to not believe anything anyone has to say, but to find out for yourself outside of mainstream media. Seek other sources, like doctors, lawyers, etc…Chapter 44 29 sec
Sam says all the information you could ever want in the world is available through a simple Google search. It puts resources at your fingertipsChapter 45 1 min
Sam thought when Richard Nixon repealed the draft, wars were over because if you throw a war, and nobody came would there really be a war? He now knows he was wrong because there is a genocidal underbelly present in the world. There are always going to be people who want to kill othersChapter 46 49 sec
Eddy believes people should have the right to be conscientious observers in wartime, and would like to see everyone who went away to Canada during Vietnam come back home to the United States, no strings attached. However the people who avoided the draft should be bitch-slappedChapter 47 49 sec
Sam was raised a Goldwater Republican. A good, Pentecostal boy. When he learned about the suffering of Vietnam veterans, it changed his outlook on world policyChapter 48 34 sec
Eddy reiterates he knew within 15 minutes of arriving in Vietnam, it was wrongChapter 49 59 sec
Eddy asks Sam about his personal, non-political, memories of Jack Herer, and Dennis PeronChapter 50 40 sec
Sam remembers Jack Herer went to a Buffalo Bills Super Bowl broadcast in Orange County with a group of political activists, and he was so enamored with the broadcast, he completely ignored everything else going on around him. He was from Buffalo, and huge fan of the Buffalos. Jack and Sam did many things together that were just social and weren’t driven by political activismChapter 51 41 sec
Sam remembers Jack Herer always being driven by motivation for social justiceChapter 52 51 sec
Sam points out that Jack Herer was a proud Republican, and came from conservative roots. He identified with the old-school philosophy of Republicanism. However, he left the party in the late 70sChapter 53 1 min
Eddy points out that he believes political parties shouldn’t be allowed. Our forefathers faught duels in the streets of Washington D.C. to prevent our nation from becoming a Democracy & AKA Mob-Fucking-Rule. He says this nation is not a democracy, even though our politicians tell us it us. We are meant to be a Republic, where each and every one of us are granted equal rights as a KingChapter 54 34 sec
Eddy asks the audience to imagine someone kicking in the front door at Buckingham Palace to see if they are growing cannabis in the backyard. It shouldn’t happen to him, or you, unless you let itChapter 55 2 mins
Sam shares another thing about Jack Herer & in 1974, Jack continually collected signatures for an initiative to go on the state ballot in respect to cannabis, despite numerous attempts to get an initiative on the ballot previously. He was highly committed to educate the public. Sometimes his representatives would sit and educate voters for half an hour on the issue of cannabis, that’s how dedicated he was to this campaign. His greatest contribution to the cannabis movement was he never quitChapter 56 19 sec
Eddy says that hemp can and will save the worldChapter 57 29 sec
Damon thanks Sam for his appearance on the show. He appreciates his insight into cannabis and hemp historyChapter 58 34 sec
Eddy thanks Sam for his appearance and looks forward to having him on the show againChapter 59 38 sec
Eddy tells the audience that the show is open to corporate sponsorshipsChapter 60 3 mins
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