Our last episode of our Last Call: Special Series Dedicated to the Covid-19 Crisis

Jaeki and Jojo sit down with Jessica Kim Gruber, Licensed LMFT Therapist in the state of New York, and open up about their personal, business and career struggles during the COVID-19 pandemic. Jaeki shares his thoughts on having to furlough employees, the stresses of trying to save a business, and being resilient in the face of everything. Jojo gets honest about her struggles trusting herself outside of set boundaries, finding clarity in her work, and gaining a balance in all the things she wants in her life. We get real with y'all for this one. Tune in!

**Disclaimer** - Our conversation with Jessica is a EXAMPLE consultation with a therapist. We did this in the hopes of demystifying the process of seeking a therapist. Listen to our episode with Joy Lieberthal Rho as a supplement to this episode. Each therapy relationship looks and feels different depending on the people involved and where you are in your journey. You or people you know may experience something different and that is okay. After any consultation, take the time to ask yourself how the conversation went and decide if you want to talk about these things with this specific therapist. At the end of the day, it is your decision. Seek out multiple therapists and see if it is for you.

Find Jessica Kim Gruber:

Her website -https://jessicakimgruber.com/

Psychology Today - https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/jessica-kim-gruber-new-york-ny/723711

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