Lisa Kolodny Johnson’s career has had its ups and downs. She was laid off during her maternity leave at one company. At another, she realized her workplace was abusive. These experiences helped her learn what feedback and experiences to take to heart, and what to leave behind. This episode, Diana and Lisa talk about how to figure out when feedback is useful and why women should start seeing themselves as the breadwinners.

02:10 - Lisa’s experience getting laid off. What did she do, and what should others take away from the experience?
08:04 - Learning to take useful feedback. How do we take what’s useful and leave behind what isn’t?
14:04 - Lisa’s website, pretzelmom.com, work-life balance, and starting new creative growth projects
19:48 - Why women should think of themselves as breadwinners
22:18 - Lisa’s experience with emotional abuse in the workplace
26:46 - Speed round

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