John Lloyd is a legendary comedy producer, who produced some of the biggest comedy hits of the 80s and 90s, including Not the Nine O Clock News, Spitting Image, and all four series of Blackadder.

After a mid life crisis he realised that his success wasn't making him happy, and this led to a lengthy search for meaning and wisdom.

This conversation with Rebel Wisdom's David Fuller covered everything from comedy, to the nature of creativity, and the meaning of life.

They also discuss his relationship with his former flatmate and writing partner Douglas Adams, the creator of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

00:00 Intro 05:17 Personal Life 11:59 Knowing Nothing 16:32 Religion & The Origin of Ideas 26:11 Quite Interesting 30:01 Depression & Focusing on the Other 38:34 Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy & Douglas Adams 45:29 Religion & Secular Rituals 54:02 Science & Spirituality 01:02:44 Intelligence, Comedy & Wisdom 01:12:01 Paradigm Shift 01:20:17 Closing

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