
Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Conversations with the best investors and business leaders in the world. We explore their ideas, methods, and stories to help you better invest your time and money. Hear stock market and boardroom insights you can't find anywhere else. If you're a professional investor, CEO, entrepreneur, or busines
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Carl Kawaja - Dealing with Regime Change - [Invest Like the Best, EP.314]
My guest this week is Carl Kawaja. It’s the second t...
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Jan 31 2023 1h 12m
Chapter 1 3 mins
[First question] What the market feels like to him todayChapter 2 3 mins
The pros and cons of the cost of capital and experimentationChapter 3 5 mins
Things we can learn from Oil & Gas stocks and resource commodities in generalChapter 4 5 mins
Pulling apart the key lessons from Berkshire’s purchases of IBM and AppleChapter 5 5 mins
The practical implications of wanting to land more soft-wins in investing that aren’t apparent out of the gateChapter 6 5 mins
How he approaches and considers products and product cycles writ largeChapter 7 2 mins
The Systems BibleChapter 8 5 mins
Thoughts about making money from value based strategiesChapter 9 4 mins
His methodology to go about finding the next diamond in the roughChapter 10 2 mins
A New InningsChapter 11 3 mins
The Arc of Boxing ; Lessons from Muhammad Ali fighting Cleveland WilliamsChapter 12 5 mins
Someone he thinks is an exemplar in both business and the worldChapter 13 5 mins
Don’t Sleep There Are SnakesChapter 14 7 mins
The role fossil fuels play in the energy transition and the current regime changeChapter 15 4 mins
What we can learn from uncontroversial transitions in the past
Daryl Morey - Systems Thinking in Sports - [Invest Like the Best, EP.313]
My guest this week is Daryl Morey, who is President ...
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Jan 24 2023 1h 3m
Chapter 1 6 mins
[First question] The basic principles of sports and what makes for a great sportChapter 2 3 mins
How resource concentration influences outcomes in various sportsChapter 3 3 mins
The degree of certainty in predicting sports outcomes based on existing dataChapter 4 2 mins
Using the concept of KPIs to optimize for certain characteristics to win gamesChapter 5 2 mins
Training teams on specific systems and plays versus leveraging individual talentChapter 6 2 mins
Why superstar athletes are key to success in basketballChapter 7 1 min
Dealing with constant expected value calculations to appease stakeholdersChapter 8 3 mins
Building the organization’s back office to find talented athletesChapter 9 5 mins
How he and other GMs make organization-level decisionsChapter 10 2 mins
Why he’s involved with basketball as opposed to other sportsChapter 11 1 min
How he uses his frameworks to figure out systems outside of mainstream sportsChapter 12 4 mins
Problems with the rules and economic factors of professional soccerChapter 13 1 min
Suggestions to mitigate huge point spreads that make viewers disinterestedChapter 14 2 mins
Trends he’s observed in the worlds of music, movies, and booksChapter 15 2 mins
His perspective on developing one’s own career pathChapter 16 1 min
How challenges in his youth benefited him in the long runChapter 17 1 min
The person he would call for advice if he was stuck in a foreign prisonChapter 18 1 min
His emphasis on first principles and why he supports free speechChapter 19 4 mins
Takeaways from a Harvard negotiation class he tookChapter 20 1 min
The power of refining the terms and definitions of a deal post-negotiationChapter 21 2 mins
The four people in the world that intrigue him mostChapter 22 1 min
The kindest thing anyone has ever done for him
Miles Grimshaw - The DNA of Software Companies - [Invest Like the Best, EP.312]
My guest today is Miles Grimshaw. Miles is in his ea...
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Jan 17 2023 1h 10m
Chapter 1 2 mins
[First question] His notion of the investor as a biologist or a physicistChapter 2 2 mins
Why he seeks out new companies with unique business modelsChapter 3 4 mins
How his investments are based on present and future needs in the marketChapter 4 1 min
Evaluating the genetics of a nascent or small companyChapter 5 3 mins
The half-life of information as it flows through a company or platformChapter 6 3 mins
Unpacking how software companies can survive re-evaluation periodsChapter 7 4 mins
The power of environment creation and facilitationChapter 8 34 sec
The importance of user conferencesChapter 9 4 mins
A company’s potential for a differentiated second act as a sign of good genesChapter 10 2 mins
Product quality, timing, and reinvention in tech startupsChapter 11 4 mins
Why it’s crucial for companies to avoid copying their heroesChapter 12 3 mins
Breaking down market perspective on pure API companiesChapter 13 2 mins
His views on software targeted to vertical versus horizontal marketsChapter 14 3 mins
Carefully leveraging relationships with core customersChapter 15 2 mins
Operational lessons from his experience with the companies he’s invested inChapter 16 45 sec
His maxim that software development is as much an art as a scienceChapter 17 1 min
His idea of a product magician in the software industryChapter 18 6 mins
Effects of new products and categories at the forefront of the spaceChapter 19 3 mins
How software founders should prepare for 2023Chapter 20 2 mins
How both market structure and product shape the genetics of a businessChapter 21 2 mins
The challenge of pricing and packaging for SaaS companiesChapter 22 59 sec
Cardinal sins in software investingChapter 23 2 mins
The kindest thing anyone has ever done for him
John Fio - Creating Magic for Consumers - [Invest Like the Best, EP.311]
My guest today is John Fiorentino. John is a produc...
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Jan 10 2023 1h 21m
Chapter 1 6 mins
[First question] The amazing story behind Gravity BlanketChapter 2 4 mins
What he’s learned about positioning relative to productChapter 3 2 mins
How fundamental truths drive creativity in commerceChapter 4 3 mins
Real-world examples of magic as he defines itChapter 5 5 mins
The investability of consumer businesses from his perspectiveChapter 6 2 mins
His contrarian thoughts on venture-backed startupsChapter 7 10 mins
How unique personalities create compelling IP and monetize itChapter 8 6 mins
The fine line between creative power and self-destruction for brand foundersChapter 9 3 mins
The importance of consumer business goals being larger than oneselfChapter 10 4 mins
The story of the Moon Pals weighted stuffed animalsChapter 11 4 mins
How investors undervalue IP and mythologyChapter 12 3 mins
Leveraging uniqueness as a founder to boost your brand powerChapter 13 4 mins
His eye-opening experience working on Justin Bieber’s teamChapter 14 3 mins
How he identifies potential magic-makers and enables themChapter 15 2 mins
An odd commonality between high-level successful peopleChapter 16 3 mins
Whether or not one could map out their own archetype frameworkChapter 17 2 mins
The dangers of focusing on one’s own persona and image as the productChapter 18 3 mins
The kindest thing anyone has ever done for him
Amjad Masad - The Future of Software Creation - [Invest Like the Best, EP.310]
My guest today is Amjad Masad. Amjad is the founder...
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Jan 3 2023 1h
Chapter 1 3 mins
[First question] The Steve Jobs black-pillChapter 2 3 mins
Speculation on the near future of programmingChapter 3 1 min
Potential convergence of simple software and coding toolsChapter 4 1 min
What an IDE is and how it worksChapter 5 1 min
The definition of REPL and the role of Replit in the spaceChapter 6 5 mins
Decreasing friction in a programming environment using primitivesChapter 7 3 mins
Real-world effects of Replit’s low-friction designChapter 8 7 mins
His perspective on new coding and AI technologiesChapter 9 2 mins
Promises and limitations of the user-friendly programming movementChapter 10 6 mins
The dynamic nature of IDE technology and its challengesChapter 11 4 mins
How he’s priming his team to react to new technologies like the upcoming GPT-4Chapter 12 3 mins
Recommended skills and training for the AI world of the futureChapter 13 4 mins
The impact of IDE and AI tech innovations on existing tech giantsChapter 14 2 mins
His mixed but optimistic views on the trajectory of AIChapter 15 2 mins
Recommendations for the curious listener without a programming backgroundChapter 16 1 min
The role of smartphones in the IDE movementChapter 17 2 mins
The kindest thing anyone has ever done for him
Rebecca Lynn - Finding Your Customers - [Invest Like the Best, EP.309]
My guest this week is Rebecca Lynn. Rebecca co-found...
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Dec 27 2022 51m
Chapter 1 2 mins
[First question] What she’d do a great job teaching if she could teach a singular 401 level courseChapter 2 49 sec
Defining what the umbrella concept isChapter 3 5 mins
What about her career at P&G applies most to the kinds of companies she spends her time with nowChapter 4 3 mins
What types of questions she asks to help someone building a product understand their marketing angleChapter 5 3 mins
The top three things people do wrong when running a survey in tactics or strategyChapter 6 1 min
Categories of questions where surveys are always helpful and effectiveChapter 7 7 mins
What the Go-To-Market Council is and what it doesChapter 8 2 mins
The ways that most funnels are commonly brokenChapter 9 2 mins
Defining great positioning and what it accomplishesChapter 10 1 min
How her knowledge and ideas most impacted the way she built CanvasChapter 11 4 mins
Lessons learned about the world of digital health and the quantified selfChapter 12 3 mins
The base level attributes that most indicate investment potential when she’s investing in a companyChapter 13 3 mins
The shifts in the world that most have her attention todayChapter 14 3 mins
What has her worried systemically about venture investingChapter 15 1 min
The kindest thing anyone has ever done for her
Michael Mauboussin - Sharpening Investor & Executive Toolkits - [Invest Like the Best, EP.308]
My guest this week is Michael Mauboussin. Many of yo...
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Dec 20 2022 1h 6m
Chapter 1 2 mins
[First question] Overview of Michael’s recent research on market shareChapter 2 2 mins
Market share dynamics in modern historyChapter 3 3 mins
How market share data is useful for investorsChapter 4 2 mins
Investing in early breakout companies from low-concentration marketsChapter 5 54 sec
Surprises from his recent research projectChapter 6 3 mins
Using the value stick for stakeholder satisfactionChapter 7 4 mins
Examples of value creation using the value stickChapter 8 8 mins
Market power in relation to markups and willingness to payChapter 9 11 mins
Identifying a company’s real ROIC numbersChapter 10 3 mins
How important absolute ROIC is when picking investmentsChapter 11 7 mins
Research on capital generation and allocation trendsChapter 12 5 mins
Characteristics of great capital allocation strategiesChapter 13 3 mins
Surprises in the market since his deep-dive researchChapter 14 3 mins
Artificial intelligence and other sources of disruptive innovation
Jeremiah Lowin: Explaining the New AI Paradigm - [Invest Like the Best, EP.307]
My guest this week is Jeremiah Lowin. Jeremiah has b...
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Dec 13 2022 1h
Chapter 1 2 mins
[First question] What a pre-trained transformer isChapter 2 3 mins
What latent representation means in the context of AI modelsChapter 3 1 min
Models using math to interpret input data and generate images accuratelyChapter 4 2 mins
Whether or not understanding AI complexity in light of the results they arrive at will become a black box scenarioChapter 5 3 mins
A high level history of the companies involved in generative AIChapter 6 3 mins
The precursory technology that makes generative AI art possibleChapter 7 5 mins
What people are doing to improve AI models in between versionsChapter 8 3 mins
Things that are literally happening during AI trainingChapter 9 3 mins
The power dynamics and barriers to entry for building AI modelsChapter 10 2 mins
Whether or not AI models might one day function as a utility like electricityChapter 11 4 mins
Coding using GitHub Copilot and what it’s felt like to use itChapter 12 4 mins
How he’d approach starting an AI company from scratchChapter 13 5 mins
Developing this technology beyond general and into specific use casesChapter 14 3 mins
The secret sauce for defensibility in the AI model spaceChapter 15 3 mins
What he’s watching more closely as the story unfoldsChapter 16 4 mins
Whether or not he thinks that these toolkits will eventually learn how to use other systems like Unreal Engine on our behalf
Bill Lenehan: Investing in Commercial Real Estate - [Invest Like the Best, EP.306]
My guest today is Bill Lenehan. Bill is the CEO of F...
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Dec 6 2022 1h 16m
Chapter 1 5 mins
[First question] Recent increases in mortgage rates and a frozen housing marketChapter 2 4 mins
Projected real estate trends over the next decadeChapter 3 3 mins
How a company’s ROI can be more consistent with backing from a real estate firmChapter 4 3 mins
Risk-return rate and risk exposure in real estate compared to other asset classesChapter 5 2 mins
The skills, traits, and circumstances that make a top-level real estate investorChapter 6 10 mins
Stand-out learnings from his time at Farallon Capital ManagementChapter 7 6 mins
The value of shopping malls and offices in a post-COVID, e-commerce USChapter 8 3 mins
Pros and cons of different types of real estate investments, including REITsChapter 9 2 mins
The impact of climate change on the real estate marketChapter 10 5 mins
The role of modern technology in investing and in real estate infrastructureChapter 11 3 mins
Hard costs of building and renovating for the futureChapter 12 2 mins
How hard costs and supply levels impact rates of return and housing costsChapter 13 4 mins
How the retail industry is adapting to consumer trendsChapter 14 2 mins
Why retailers need to adapt to a changing economy and how they’ll do itChapter 15 2 mins
The relative magnitude of change in today’s real estate marketChapter 16 2 mins
The role health and wellness plays in real estate and financeChapter 17 2 mins
What it feels like to be investing in 2022Chapter 18 4 mins
The kindest thing anyone has ever done for him
Ron Howard and Brian Grazer - Box Office Business - [Invest Like the Best, EP.305]
Today I’m joined by two Hollywood greats, Ron Howard...
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Nov 29 2022 52m
Chapter 1 5 mins
[First question] The value of trust and how Ron built it up over time with BrianChapter 2 6 mins
The spark that allowed Brian to trust and work with RonChapter 3 1 min
Ray Stark calling Brian and threatening him over their mermaid movieChapter 4 3 mins
Keeping their creative spark alive as their business scaled and maturedChapter 5 3 mins
Principals like the universality concept that they return to most commonlyChapter 6 2 mins
Seemingly bottomless wells of inspiration that they both pull fromChapter 7 3 mins
Curiosity precedes innovation and the curiosity conversations Brian hasChapter 8 2 mins
The pitch format Brian uses to try and secure a guest for a curiosity talkChapter 9 1 min
The role of engaging with conversations or ideas Brian disagrees withChapter 10 3 mins
How curiosity shapes the nitty gritty of Ron’s directing and producingChapter 11 2 mins
The biggest mistakes they’ve come across that people make telling storiesChapter 12 3 mins
Pinpointing the defining moments of their careers outside of the obvious winsChapter 13 2 mins
Thoughts about how the industry has changed across their careersChapter 14 2 mins
How they’ve gotten better at taking a project from nothing to the finish lineChapter 15 3 mins
The kindest things anyone has ever done for them
Shane Battier - The No-Stats All-Star - [Invest Like the Best, EP.304]
Today’s episode is a special one, in a format that m...
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Nov 22 2022 54m
Chapter 1 4 mins
[First question] What people measure in basketball, what matters when it comes to winning, and why he was called a replaceable cog in the No-Stats All-StarChapter 2 3 mins
Some of the plays that impact the overall points during a basketball gameChapter 3 2 mins
The role that preparation and understanding game analytics plays in the ability to do something different and succeed at itChapter 4 1 min
The power of curiosity and obsessing over detailsChapter 5 4 mins
Embracing his role and how being a role player applies to life outside of the courtChapter 6 2 mins
Where his obsession for winning and being a good team mate comes fromChapter 7 5 mins
Some of the things great leaders and coaches did to inspire himChapter 8 5 mins
An overview of the four types of teams and fundamental aspects of themChapter 9 2 mins
What a person can do to elevate their team and make it a winning oneChapter 10 3 mins
Antifragility and the letter Shane wrote for Ravi when Amazon bought Whole FoodsChapter 11 3 mins
Riding the thin line between winning a championship and being irrelevantChapter 12 1 min
How to get everyone rallied around a long-term shared mission effectivelyChapter 13 5 mins
Finding a No-Stats All-Star in a company and what to look for in oneChapter 14 2 mins
The kindest thing anyone has ever done for him
Parker Conrad - Building a Compound Company - [Invest Like the Best, EP.303]
My guest today is Parker Conrad, co-founder and CEO ...
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Nov 15 2022 1h
Chapter 1 9 mins
Compound StartupsChapter 2 7 mins
Ripple Lane vs. SalesforceChapter 3 8 mins
The Advantages of a Compound StartupChapter 4 5 mins
Advantages of Rippling in Commoditized MarketsChapter 5 5 mins
RippleaineChapter 6 7 mins
Good Communication in a Fast Growing BusinessChapter 7 7 mins
The Productivity ParadoxChapter 8 6 mins
The Compound Business
Bob Elliott - A Macro Tour - [Invest Like the Best, EP.302]
My guest today is Bob Elliott, the CEO and CIO of U...
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Nov 8 2022 1h 20m
Chapter 1 4 mins
[First question] The Economic Organization of a POW Camp and key lessons one can learn from the paperChapter 2 2 mins
The way that supply and demand clears a price and how that plays into his thinking about investing across asset classesChapter 3 1 min
Whether or not he has a generalized investing worldview or frameworkChapter 4 3 mins
Deciding on what data is signal and matters most when analyzing marketsChapter 5 4 mins
A crash course on easy money and tight money regimes and the implications of both in a macro environmentChapter 6 3 mins
The rise and role of inflation and what should be done about itChapter 7 6 mins
What the next couple of years will look like if we draw lessons from historyChapter 8 4 mins
Why gold could ever belong in someone's portfolio when it doesn’t produce or yield anything back to the investorChapter 9 5 mins
Supply and demand constraints and the state of the housing market todayChapter 10 5 mins
What might happen in future labor markets given our current macro environmentChapter 11 5 mins
Currencies, energy, geopolitics, and what he’s most focused on globallyChapter 12 3 mins
What movements in the charts are worrying him the mostChapter 13 6 mins
The original “All Weather” portfolio and what one would look like if he built it todayChapter 14 5 mins
How his career has taught him to find talented individuals who might deliver alphaChapter 15 5 mins
Lessons learned from early-stage and venture investing and thoughts on that world nowChapter 16 3 mins
Why there hasn’t been an iconic early-stage technology investing firm driven by systematic strategiesChapter 17 3 mins
The kindest thing anyone has ever done for him
Kirsten Green - Investing in Consumer Change - [Invest Like the Best, EP.301]
My guest today is Kirsten Green, founder and managin...
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Nov 1 2022 1h 9m
Chapter 1 4 mins
[First question] The insights gleaned from studying consumers in the modern eraChapter 2 2 mins
Whether or not the shift in consumer behavior is similar to a platform shift like mobileChapter 3 1 min
Which of her hypothesis going into the research was proven most wrongChapter 4 2 mins
The leading persona archetype that drives consumer spendingChapter 5 2 mins
Thoughts about her investing focus after doing all of this researchChapter 6 2 mins
How much the digital world is good and bad for communityChapter 7 2 mins
Positive and negative impacts digital access has on childrenChapter 8 8 mins
The investing criteria that she and her firm have developed for founders and business models they find desirableChapter 9 2 mins
An example of the middle of the spectrum between tailwinds and headwinds that may result in them passing on a businessChapter 10 3 mins
The beachhead problem for entry points, encouraging good focus and entry point selection, and who’s done it wellChapter 11 4 mins
The history of the consumer of how they buy and sell and where the shifts in power have beenChapter 12 3 mins
Other interesting trends she’s seeing in the seller empowerment eraChapter 13 3 mins
How different her investing models are for linear product businessesChapter 14 3 mins
Frameworks she’s developed for evaluating a brand early onChapter 15 3 mins
The most defining moment in Forerunner’s history and the hardest lesson she’s had to learnChapter 16 50 sec
Ways she’s fostered and mentored young investors at ForerunnerChapter 17 45 sec
What the most underappreciated thing is today about the consumerChapter 18 1 min
User and customer development strategies that work well for early stage productsChapter 19 3 mins
Three businesses young investors should study to educate themselves on great consumer businesses; Shoe DogChapter 20 5 mins
Where they find the companies Forerunner tends to invest in, and how to build and effective deal flow pipelineChapter 21 4 mins
The kindest thing anyone has ever done for her
Jason Droege - Building Uber Eats - [Invest Like the Best, EP.300]
My guest today is Jason Droege, a venture partner at...
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Oct 25 2022 1h 4m
Chapter 1 4 mins
[First question] What it was like at a high level building Uber EatsChapter 2 2 mins
How he would structure entrepreneurial incentives on a platform like Uber for a new leader or team attempting to build on top of itChapter 3 4 mins
What he learned about selecting competitive frontiers and mistakes made while building Uber EatsChapter 4 2 mins
Things that Uber Eats got most right that he’s proud ofChapter 5 2 mins
Constructive mistakes that taught him a lot from his time with Uber EatsChapter 6 2 mins
What made India such a competitive environmentChapter 7 3 mins
Building a business with an uncertain end state of unit economicsChapter 8 1 min
What improved the most in his playbook for launching in a new cityChapter 9 1 min
Defining what best means in this competitive sectorChapter 10 3 mins
Dealing with suppliers in different categories and finding an ideal balanceChapter 11 1 min
When monogamy between the buyer and supplier matters and when it doesn’t in a marketplaceChapter 12 2 mins
Other attributes of a marketplace he’d pay special attention to as an investor given what he’s learned building oneChapter 13 1 min
Defining what founder market fit is and being “fingertippy”Chapter 14 2 mins
His views on the relationships between leaders of businesses and their culturesChapter 15 1 min
Why Uber believed in him more than he didChapter 16 2 mins
What he learned about marketing to suppliers specificallyChapter 17 1 min
Find new businesses by looking for areas that technology hasn’t yet affectedChapter 18 2 mins
Differing views he has on the concept of failureChapter 19 1 min
Thoughts about ideas versus execution and the relative importance of the twoChapter 20 2 mins
Effectively measuring opportunity cost and using it in decision makingChapter 21 5 mins
What it’s like being inside of a consumer business that people have so many opinions aboutChapter 22 2 mins
How he would describe the landscape and state of the market he was in from a higher viewpoint todayChapter 23 1 min
The most interesting things he’s learned from his time as a partner at BenchmarkChapter 24 3 mins
The kindest thing anyone has ever done for him
Paul Orfalea - It’s About the Money - [Invest Like the Best, EP.299]
My guest today is Paul Orfalea. Paul founded Kinkos,...
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Oct 18 2022 46m
Chapter 1 1 min
[First question] What it was like to be a very bad student in highschoolChapter 2 39 sec
When he first realized he was unemployableChapter 3 1 min
The origin story of the very first Kinko’sChapter 4 43 sec
What the ideal progression of an entrepreneur is in his mindChapter 5 55 sec
Recognizing real customer problems and what he enjoys most about salesChapter 6 1 min
Finding what has worked well in each Kinko’s and coaching managersChapter 7 1 min
Something he found that a manager was doing that blew him awayChapter 8 1 min
Getting messages from his brain to everyone else in the Kinko’s networkChapter 9 1 min
The difference of working on and not in the businessChapter 10 34 sec
What he got better at when it came to managing peopleChapter 11 43 sec
Why a good salesperson will sell you brokeChapter 12 26 sec
Disagreeableness as a positive characteristic for people in businessChapter 13 27 sec
Whether or not candor is different from disagreeablenessChapter 14 2 mins
Why he teaches, what he teaches, and his teaching styleChapter 15 1 min
Explaining the Federal Reserve in two minutesChapter 16 18 sec
What students most commonly want from himChapter 17 1 min
Whether or not making yourself inaccessible as a leader is good for promoting a self-starter attitude amongst team membersChapter 18 18 sec
The story about tearing down a sign that was antagonistic to a customerChapter 19 32 sec
The role of anger in his career and something he’s worked on over timeChapter 20 1 min
Where Kinko’s falls on the spectrum of bad to great businessesChapter 21 58 sec
Characteristics he’d look for in founders to back a business earlyChapter 22 1 min
Qualities of a business he’d cultivate more or less if he could start overChapter 23 23 sec
Lessons learned about using the word employeeChapter 24 38 sec
His strategy for where to go next once he had his original conceptChapter 25 23 sec
The most clever marketing strategy he ever deployed or designedChapter 26 44 sec
Learning to spread the glory instead of the moneyChapter 27 1 min
The state of entrepreneurship today compared to when he startedChapter 28 51 sec
How he instilled frugality and the saving mentality in the businessChapter 29 52 sec
What motivated him across his careerChapter 30 58 sec
Why being in it for the money seems odd in today’s lensChapter 31 16 sec
Who he most admired or most admires todayChapter 32 16 sec
Let My People Go Surfing: The Education of a Reluctant BusinessmanChapter 33 33 sec
Preserving the alignment of integrity and actionChapter 34 1 min
What it felt like to sell a business he’d worked so hard onChapter 35 2 mins
How good he is naturally with numbers and math being dyslexicChapter 36 47 sec
Defining success as having your adult children want to hang out with you and what stood out about his parents to himChapter 37 28 sec
His parents’ impression of him while he was building Kinko’sChapter 38 1 min
What has his interest and keeps his interest mostChapter 39 51 sec
The most interesting person he’s ever worked with at Kinko’sChapter 40 35 sec
What he would have done differently if he started from scratchChapter 41 1 min
Something that is most underappreciated about the United StatesChapter 42 56 sec
The kindest thing anyone has ever done for himChapter 43 2 mins
A big lesson he’s earned in a deeper way that he wishes he could share with others
Madhavan Ramanujam - How to Price Products - [Invest Like the Best, EP.298]
My guest today is Madhavan Ramanujam. Madhavan quite...
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Oct 11 2022 56m
Chapter 1 2 mins
[First question] How he arrived at a radically different way of building productsChapter 2 3 mins
An example of coming up with a price before the productChapter 3 1 min
Distinctions between a willingness to pay and positive feedbackChapter 4 3 mins
How to make sure you’re talking to the right potential customer in the first placeChapter 5 2 mins
Productizing for different customer segmentsChapter 6 5 mins
Questions companies should be asking to get accurate feedbackChapter 7 1 min
What he’s learned about the motivations of potential buyersChapter 8 1 min
What leaders, killers, and fillers areChapter 9 57 sec
Some of the biggest mistakes companies make while following his formulaChapter 10 1 min
A rule of thumb for what is a benefit versus a featureChapter 11 3 mins
Five distinct pricing models for charging a customerChapter 12 2 mins
Whether or not the value piece of all of this revolves around time and moneyChapter 13 1 min
What he tells entrepreneurs about pricing their products that most surprises themChapter 14 4 mins
Defining the first four categories of failureChapter 15 1 min
Reasons why so many innovations fail to monetize and pricing being a CEO topicChapter 16 5 mins
Good rules that leaders can use to have a general sense for effective pricingChapter 17 2 mins
Behavioral changes and observations as the absolute price move up and downChapter 18 2 mins
Is there a pricing genius we should take note of?Chapter 19 27 sec
The single question every leader should ask themselvesChapter 20 2 mins
The kindest thing anyone has ever done for him
Scott Wilson - Non-Traditional Endowment Investing - [Invest Like the Best, EP.297]
My guest today is Scott Wilson. Scott is the CIO of ...
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Oct 4 2022 56m
Chapter 1 2 mins
[First question] What he learned about markets from quant fixed income tradingChapter 2 32 sec
How his experience shaped his degree of skepticism of the worldChapter 3 1 min
The story that brought him to Grinnell CollegeChapter 4 1 min
What his education was like back in 2010 and what seemed sensible and insane when he arrivedChapter 5 1 min
The style of investment he learned at Grinnell compared to his style nowChapter 6 1 min
His philosophy around trying to have more direct ownershipChapter 7 1 min
Why their co-investment approach is outperforming the restChapter 8 1 min
Lessons learned about choosing good partners and doing it effectively over timeChapter 9 33 sec
Things that are most enjoyable about getting to know new managersChapter 10 1 min
The role that global travel and having boots on the ground plays in his successChapter 11 2 mins
Why they spend so much time in frontier and emerging marketsChapter 12 1 min
Lessons learned from investing in China and thoughts on it todayChapter 13 51 sec
What else he’s learned in continental Asia outside of ChinaChapter 14 2 mins
Interests and red flags when it comes to investing in the venture spaceChapter 15 1 min
The worst things he sees from venture investorsChapter 16 1 min
Whether or not venture investors should care moreChapter 17 1 min
The virtues and vices in private equity and his thoughts on that spaceChapter 18 1 min
What percentage of investors in private equity are investors versus just involved to try and engineer returnsChapter 19 2 mins
His impressions on hedge funds and the evolution of the hedge fund modelChapter 20 1 min
The role that credit can play in a portfolio like the one he manages nowChapter 21 1 min
Common characteristics of managers that perform well in creditChapter 22 2 mins
How he thinks about the sources of returns in the “other” portfolio categoryChapter 23 3 mins
Everything he’s learned about asset managers acting as asset gatherersChapter 24 2 mins
Ways he fights convergence and tracking error overseeing so much capitalChapter 25 2 mins
What it’s like to go through the bad side of tracking errorChapter 26 1 min
Thoughts on how the macro environment influences allocating time and resourcesChapter 27 1 min
What he sees as a normal level of tracking error for endowments and foundationsChapter 28 1 min
Why such big pools of institutional capital tend to look so similarChapter 29 56 sec
Whether or not real estate sits somewhere between stocks and bondsChapter 30 2 mins
The cultivation of a talented investment team and effectively teaching investingChapter 31 1 min
Colliding managers in a fun and spirited way at meetingsChapter 32 33 sec
An investing trip from his career that he finds most memorableChapter 33 43 sec
The kindest thing anyone has ever done for himChapter 34 2 mins
Whether or not the factors that sort winners from losers will be different today compared to a decade ago
Julio Vasconcellos & Mate Pencz - Investing in Latin America - [Invest Like the Best, EP.296]
My guests today are Julio Vasconcellos and Mate Penc...
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Sep 27 2022 1h 1m
Chapter 1 2 mins
[First question] A broad perspective on what is interesting in Latin American investing today Latin America Digital Report 2022Chapter 2 55 sec
What makes up the existing 1.5% tech penetration index in Lat AmChapter 3 2 mins
Florian Hagenbuch, Mate Pencz Everything Will be Bought Online (Loft) ; David Velez Building the Branchless Network (Nubank) ; How important it is to parse by country when it comes to building businesses in LatAmChapter 4 3 mins
Overview of LatAm as a microcosm of fintech innovation happening really fast and what is most exciting in that sphereChapter 5 1 min
Why the adoption of PIX was so successful and how it maps onto the banking systemChapter 6 4 mins
What PIX’s widespread adoption will enable for the coming wave of entrepreneursChapter 7 3 mins
Demographics, GDP, growth rates, and inequality in LatAmChapter 8 2 mins
Shifting to remote work and how it’ll affect LatAm workers and talentChapter 9 4 mins
Macro tailwinds that matter when it comes to returns in these markesChapter 10 2 mins
What it feels like for an entrepreneur today compared to when Loft launchedChapter 11 4 mins
Deeper themes and what needs to be unlocked for LatAm’s tech sector to look more like the US or China with big tech giantsChapter 12 3 mins
The opportunity set in developing a software that serves small and medium businesses in LatAmChapter 13 2 mins
Sources of available funding for venture and private equityChapter 14 2 mins
What valuations look like and whether or not there’s an entry multiple discountChapter 15 2 mins
Seeking evidence that crypto is used in more valuable ways in emerging marketsChapter 16 2 mins
Areas where LatAm is operating in a future state more so than elsewhereChapter 17 2 mins
What the right amount of global firm participation in capital partnerships looks likeChapter 18 3 mins
Big standout lessons from their operating daysChapter 19 2 mins
What is most exciting and concerning about their investing style and investing writ large in LatAmChapter 20 2 mins
The kindest thing anyone has ever done for Julio
Trina Spear - Billion Dollar Scrubs - [Invest Like the Best, EP.295]
My guest today is Trina Spear, a former investor at ...
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Sep 20 2022 49m
Chapter 1 1 min
[First question] The original insight that lead to founding FIGSChapter 2 1 min
Why obvious opportunities can go so long before being seizedChapter 3 2 mins
Key dimensions needed to improve the product and the early daysChapter 4 1 min
Basic overview of a clothing retailer’s financial profileChapter 5 2 mins
Financing the business and the early stage cash flow cycleChapter 6 1 min
Strategies to manage workflow and making sacrificesChapter 7 2 mins
Advice for people trying to build their brands in a hands-on wayChapter 8 1 min
The biggest calculated risk she took in the first five yearsChapter 9 2 mins
Building a foundation that allowed for such explosive growthChapter 10 2 mins
The story that allowed FIGS to connect with their customersChapter 11 1 min
Painting a picture of the size and scope of healthcare apparelChapter 12 2 mins
Things lazy companies do and thoughts on product varietyChapter 13 1 min
Defining SKU productivity and what to do with low productivity productsChapter 14 1 min
Chip Wilson Book ; Lessons learned from reading Chip’s storyChapter 15 2 mins
Balancing a healthy relationship with your CFOChapter 16 1 min
Where she sees the most runway to tackle and continue to executeChapter 17 2 mins
A women-lead industry and her time spent with Meg WhitmanChapter 18 1 min
The most essential jobs she feels she has and shouldn’t do as the CEOChapter 19 2 mins
Thoughts about relationships with investors and messagingChapter 20 1 min
What she’d be most focus on in founders if she was just an investorChapter 21 43 sec
The most stressful thing that has ever come across her deskChapter 22 45 sec
What types of things bring her the most joy in building FIGSChapter 23 1 min
Philosophy of hiring given their small team and when it’s okay to hireChapter 24 51 sec
Whether or not there’s a role for non A players in businessesChapter 25 1 min
The kindest thing anyone has ever done for her
Gabriel Leydon - How Web3 Onboards a Billion Users - [Web3 Breakdowns, EP.37]
Today, we are sharing an episode of Web3 Breakdowns ...
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Sep 15 2022 59m
Chapter 1 9 mins
[First question] What free-to-own gaming means and why it’s excitingChapter 2 51 sec
Pre-existing behavior that sets up free-to-own for successChapter 3 1 min
The progression from PFP NFTs to clubs and the road aheadChapter 4 3 mins
Overview of the business and monetization model for free-to-own gamesChapter 5 4 mins
The story of DigiDaigaku, their mechanics, the drops, and what lead to their creationChapter 6 2 mins
Balancing supply and demand in a free-to-own marketChapter 7 1 min
Creativity and extensions of the DigiDaigaku NFTsChapter 8 1 min
Tiering, breeding and the role the Genesis series will play in the Digi universeChapter 9 2 mins
The level of brand marketing NFTs will unlock for businessesChapter 10 1 min
How free-to-own will be the primary monetization method for brandsChapter 11 1 min
A future with a global marketing shift towards digital property and economiesChapter 12 2 mins
Why most of the winning PFP projects are of unique charactersChapter 13 6 mins
His Twitter strategy and how he’s created such a fervor around himChapter 14 25 sec
What will define the legendary marketers over the coming decadeChapter 15 1 min
Interoperability needed to make real-world NFT uses appealing to consumersChapter 16 55 sec
Whether or not we’ll see more token-gated business in the futureChapter 17 3 mins
Stable Diffusion and his impression of the new AI art generating botsChapter 18 1 min
What great distribution looks like in a digitally native worldChapter 19 3 mins
The emphasis of innovation taking place in the metaverse being a bad thingChapter 20 1 min
Things he most admires in adjacent games and creators in his worldChapter 21 1 min
Unique game mechanics that Web3 technology unlocksChapter 22 3 mins
NFTs will be the gateway for people to acquire crypto
Harley Finkelstein - Building the Entrepreneurship Company - [Invest Like the Best, EP.294]
My guest today is Harley Finkelstein. Harley is the ...
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Sep 13 2022 1h 5m
Chapter 1 3 mins
[First question] His interpretation and definition of a person’s life's workChapter 2 2 mins
The story of the riverstone and the average polished executiveChapter 3 4 mins
The thing he can’t help but do; and focusing on our compulsionsChapter 4 3 mins
How he would boil things down to the most simple entrepreneurial formula; DistilledChapter 5 4 mins
What is harder and easier about new business formation todayChapter 6 3 mins
The countervailing forces for small-to-medium business entrepreneurshipChapter 7 4 mins
What he’s learned about operationalizing ideas and mentor lessonsChapter 8 1 min
A piece of fortune cookie advice that he finds terribleChapter 9 4 mins
How Brands Grow ; his philosophy on marketing & distributionChapter 10 3 mins
The most effective distribution strategies he’s seen work in Shopify that might be portable to other businessesChapter 11 2 mins
What it was like getting their first app developer for the Shopify app storeChapter 12 4 mins
The state of ecommerce today writ large and what trends are interestingChapter 13 3 mins
Lessons learned about the digital places that people are buyingChapter 14 3 mins
What it’s been like as an executive working at a company that had their stock price explode over the pandemicChapter 15 1 min
Tips for communicating effectively with Wall StreetChapter 16 55 sec
An investor that stands out in memory that really impressed himChapter 17 1 min
Important aspects of his world that are worth mentioningChapter 18 2 mins
Lessons learned about motivating people through DJingChapter 19 4 mins
Whether or not reading the crowd can apply to businessChapter 20 1 min
The kindest thing anyone has ever done for him
Mitch Lasky - The Business of Gaming - [Invest Like the Best, EP.293]
My guest today is Mitch Lasky. Mitch is a partner at...
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Sep 6 2022 1h 13m
Chapter 1 2 mins
[First question] Why there aren’t more famous gaming investorsChapter 2 2 mins
The most important features of the modern gaming business modelChapter 3 51 sec
Developing his aesthetic taste and investing decision skillChapter 4 1 min
What makes a game funChapter 5 1 min
How delivering a pleasurable active user experience differs from passive content and mediaChapter 6 1 min
The developers of Doom being the first real modern video game companyChapter 7 1 min
Half-Life’s important role in the development of the gaming industryChapter 8 3 mins
The powerful notion of the platform-based publisher modelChapter 9 2 mins
How some of the big game aggregators get started in the first placeChapter 10 1 min
What Riot can teach non-gaming businesses about business writ largeChapter 11 4 mins
Ways that the change from physical games to downloads changed monetizationChapter 12 3 mins
How to quantify an economic model in the new paradigm of superfan monetizationChapter 13 3 mins
What the shift in gaming platforms has done to the business modelChapter 14 2 mins
The impact of Apple’s privacy changes on gaming revenueChapter 15 2 mins
How the access to professional game engines and a lower friction environment will change the industryChapter 16 2 mins
Whether or not there is a step beyond mobileChapter 17 2 mins
Ways platforms like Twitch and Discord have influenced gamingChapter 18 2 mins
What he’s learned about games that allow them to seemingly exist foreverChapter 19 1 min
Signs of a healthy gaming communityChapter 20 1 min
The role of celebrities and influencers and generating retained audiencesChapter 21 5 mins
Whether or not crypto will unlock new opportunities for in-game monetizationChapter 22 1 min
Key categories of motivators that could replace a ponzi-style in-game inflationChapter 23 3 mins
Contrasting League of Legends versus a Ready Player One style worldChapter 24 2 mins
Emerging technologies and trends that may revolutionize the industryChapter 25 2 mins
A future with further consolidation on distribution and powerChapter 26 2 mins
The most genius game pattern he’s ever playedChapter 27 2 mins
What attributes will define the great game investors in the coming decadesChapter 28 4 mins
How much his experience lends itself to investing in other sectorsChapter 29 2 mins
The kindest thing anyone has ever done for him
David Senra - Passion & Pain - [Invest Like the Best, EP.292]
My guest today is David Senra. David has studied his...
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Aug 30 2022 1h 22m
Chapter 1 3 mins
[First question] When he first fell in love with readingChapter 2 3 mins
What’s rooted in his own history that’s made him obsessive about studying history’s great entrepreneurs and founders Founders PodcastChapter 3 3 mins
The first time he connected with someone as a positive role model that he was reading aboutChapter 4 4 mins
How often obsession is apparent in the founders he’s studied across hundreds of biographiesChapter 5 4 mins
What is often behind obsession and how people listening can apply the lessons to their own livesChapter 6 4 mins
The dynamic and relationship between inspiration and perspirationChapter 7 4 mins
Commonalities between the layers of leadership and support underneath foundersChapter 8 6 mins
Where else he’s seen ego rear its head in good and bad waysChapter 9 2 mins
How often do great founders break the law or enter gray areas of itChapter 10 3 mins
The role constant learning and listening plays in successChapter 11 7 mins
Talking about how anything worth doing is worth doing to excessChapter 12 6 mins
Describing the soul of founders and businessesChapter 13 5 mins
What he’s learned about all of these founders as it relates to marketingChapter 14 3 mins
A common story that process is often artChapter 15 6 mins
Who his idols are in podcasting specificallyChapter 16 4 mins
Major aspects of people he’s studied that haven’t been discussed yetChapter 17 3 mins
The kindest thing anyone has ever done for him
Robert Smith - Investing in Enterprise Software - [Invest Like the Best, EP.291]
My guest today is Robert Smith, the founder, Chairma...
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Aug 23 2022 56m
Chapter 1 3 mins
[First question] What the enterprise software market looks and feels like to himChapter 2 3 mins
Whether or not software is becoming a saturated market and what will drive demand over the coming decadesChapter 3 2 mins
Bringing an engineering mindset to enterprise software investing and cultureChapter 4 1 min
A single change he made to a business that stands out most in memoryChapter 5 3 mins
Qualities that are most critical in defining a good enterprise software companyChapter 6 2 mins
How the profile of companies he’s bought has changed over the yearsChapter 7 3 mins
Categories of software he tends to gravitate towardsChapter 8 3 mins
Evolving his model for considering what multiple to pay for a business and thinking about p/e growth multiplesChapter 9 2 mins
Lessons learned about customer churn over his twenty two year careerChapter 10 2 mins
Capital cycles and how much they truly impact the software worldChapter 11 2 mins
What elements of building Vista have most appealed to him over the yearsChapter 12 3 mins
Changing their investment strategy as the world continues to changeChapter 13 1 min
The war for talent and what his senior team would debate mostChapter 14 1 min
Biggest mistakes Vista has made and what they taught himChapter 15 2 mins
What has him most insecure or paranoid about the platform he’s builtChapter 16 1 min
The advice he’d give on having good relationships with LPsChapter 17 1 min
The largest risk he or Vista has ever intentionally takenChapter 18 3 mins
What he’s learned about having a winning negotiations and sales approachChapter 19 38 sec
Who he’d give all of his capital to outside of VistaChapter 20 3 mins
How he arrived at the themes he tends to be philanthropic towardsChapter 21 1 min
The work he does in the foster worldChapter 22 1 min
The kindest thing anyone has ever done for him